The Irrationalism of Infidelity –Objections Dependent on “Science”

There is no inconsistency. As regards man, the science of physiology can only examine man as he is — in a state of mortality. This is not, according to scripture how God created him. To suppose that God could not have sustained man in an immortal condition, is to put limitations on God, who cannot be limited. We are taught that following the fall, man became a dying creature, subject to ‘wear and tear’

Although JND used the word ‘science’, this objection surrounds more the anthropological background to beliefs worldwide.

It is not related to technological developments about which JND could not have known. These are however irrelevant to this discussion. I do not believe anything of the bible has been disproved by the discoveries of the past 150 years.

Objection – The biblical account is inconsistent with modern knowledge.

The_Fall_of_Man-1616-Hendrik_GoltziusAnswer. There is no inconsistency. As regards man, the science of physiology can only examine man as he is — in a state of mortality. This is not, according to scripture how God created him. To suppose that God could not have sustained man in an immortal condition, is to put limitations on God, who cannot be limited. We are taught that following the fall, man became a dying creature, subject to ‘wear and tear’.

If we look into ancient texts we find various references consistent with the account in Genesis. For example Plato wrote, ‘They lived naked in a state of happiness, and had an abundance of fruits, which were produced without the labour of agriculture, and men and beasts could then converse together. But these things we must pass over, until there appear some one to interpret them to us.’ [I cannot locate Source – maybe the Republic]. Fragments of truth, amidst the mass of superstition, exist in Egyptian, Greek, Mexican and Hindu fables. However, none of the written accounts are older than about 700BC [National Geographic refers to Mycenaean writing around 1450BC, the time of the exodus, but that makes no difference].

The millions of years of Hindu chronology, or the more moderate thousands of Chinese dynasties, have disappeared before increased information. Indeed, we have some Chinese dynasties and some dark Hindu traditions, which tend to confirm the early Mosaic accounts.

God, however, has given us a concise, simple account of immense moral import, infinitely elevated above the whole range of the heathen fables which pervert its elements, placing the supreme God — man —  good — evil —  responsibility — grace —  law — promise —  the creatures — marriage, all in their place. The Mosaic account brings out the innocence at creation, the knowledge of good and evil, conscience, judgment, the closing of the way to the tree of life, and the promise in the woman’s seed.

In so many fables there is the conflict between good and evil, with good prevailing. However in scripture, the drama was a reality; all involving one man and his failing companion. Yet from her who failed recovery was to spring; grace was to be brought out and magnified.

Another thing is evident, that Mesopotamia, and the country north of it, is the area from which the world was peopled.   Assyria, Babylon, and Egypt, Persia, Greece, Rome, all are grouped round it. Indeed the Phoenicians even went to Ireland. [Skeptics might argue nowadays that early man came from Africa, but this is not the subject here].

No creature can subsist per se, that is, independently of God.

J N Darby – The Father’s Grace – Father, in Thine Eternal Power,

FATHER, in Thine eternal power,
Thy grace and majesty divine,
No soul, in this weak mortal hour,
Can grasp the glory that is Thine!

Hymn by John Nelson Darby (1800-1882)

8.8.8.8.

FATHER, in Thine eternal power,
Thy grace and majesty divine,
No soul, in this weak mortal hour,
Can grasp the glory that is Thine!

E’en in its thoughts of sovereign grace
It leaves us all far, far behind;
The love that gives with Christ a place
Surpasses our poor feeble mind.

And yet that love is not unknown
To those who have the Saviour seen;
Nor strange to those He calls His own –
Pilgrims in scenes where He has been.

In Him Thy perfect love, revealed,
Has led our hearts that love to trace
Where nothing of that love’s concealed,
But meets us in our lowly place.

But grace, the source of all our hope,
From Thine eternal nature flows;
Could to our lost condition stoop,
And now through Christ no hindrance knows;

Has flowed in fullest streams below,
And opened to our hearts the place
Where, in its ripened fruits, we’ll know
The eternal blessings of that grace.

And here we walk, as sons through grace,
A Father’s love our present joy;
Sons, in the brightness of Thy face,
Find rest no sorrows can destroy.

Nor is the comfort of Thy love,
In which we “Abba, Father” cry,
The only blessing that we prove:
Because that love is ever nigh,

A holy Father’s constant care
Keeps watch, with an unwearying eye,
To see what fruits His children bear,
Fruits that may suit their calling high;

Takes ever knowledge of our state –
What dims communion with His love,
Might check our growth or separate
Our hearts from what’s revealed above.

Oh, wondrous Love, that ne’er forgets
The object of its tender care;
May chasten still, while sin besets,
To warn and guard them where they are;

But ne’er forgets, but feeds them still
With tokens of His tender love;
Will keep till, freed from every ill,
They find their rest with Him above.

Oh, wondrous, infinite, divine!
Keep near, my soul, to that blest place,
Where all those heavenly glories shine
Which suit the brightness of His face.

Oh, lowliness, how feebly known,
That meets the grace that gave the Son!
That waits, to serve Him as His own,
Till grace what grace began shall crown!

[1879]

Edited version in Little Flock Hymn Book  (1962, 1973) – No 120

How to Know the Father’s Will

Finally “the meek will he guide in judgment, and the meek will he teach his way” (Ps 25: 9).
I have given you all that comes to mind at this moment, and little satisfaction, I fear. But remember only that the wisdom of God conducts us in the way of God’s will. If our own will is in activity, God cannot be the servant of it; that is the first point to discover. It is the secret of the life of Christ. I know no other principle that God makes use of, however He may pardon and overrule all. You have asked me for direction: God leads the new man who has no other mind than Christ, and who mortifies the old man. He purifies us thus that we may bear fruit.

This was the subject of a letter, originally in French (JND French Letters No 436) and translated by myself.  The translation has been reviewed by another brother.  It is an alternative translation to that in JND’s Collected Writings.  How to Know the Will of the Father  vol  16 (Practical 1) p19
DJR Translation

436
Dear Brother

You could not suppose that a child who habitually neglected its father, and was always wholly indifferent to his mind and will, would not know what would please its parent when a difficult circumstance presented itself.   There are certain things which God intentionally leaves in generalities, in order that the state of a soul may be proved.  If, instead of the child, a wife was found there, there would probably be no hesitation in her mind; she would know immediately what would please her husband; even where he had expressed no positive will about the circumstance in question. Now you cannot escape this trial; God will not allow His children to escape it. “If thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be fun of light.” (Matt 6: 22).  This easy and comfortable means of knowing God’s will does not exist without reference to the state of our own soul.
There is something else.  Very often we are of too much importance in our own eyes and we imagine, however wrongly, that God has some will for us in the circumstances in which one is working.  In fact, God has nothing to tell us thereon, and all the agitation provoked in us by the thing which concerns us is only evil. The will of God is that we should know to take our place quietly, an insignificant place.  At other times, we seek to know God would have us to act in circumstances in which His only will is that we should not be found there at all, and the first thing to which our conscience would lead us, if it were really in activity, would be to make us leave them.  Our own will has set us there, and we would like nevertheless to lean on the hand of God and to be directed by Him in the path of our own will. Such is a very common case.

Be assured that, if we kept ourselves near enough to God, He would not leaveus in ignorance of His mind.  In a long and active life, God, in His love, may make us feel our dependence when we have a tendency to act according to our own will, and does not immediately reveal His own; but the principle remains, whatever it is: “if thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light”.  Whence it is certain that, if the whole body is not full of light, the eye is not single.  You will say to me, That is poor consolation.  No, it is sweet and precious consolation for those whose desire is to have the eye single and to walk with God – not only to delivered objectively, so to speak, by the knowledge of His will, but to walk with Him. “If any man walk in the day, he stumbleth not, because he seeth the light of this world. But if a man walk in the night, he stumbleth, because there is no light in him” (John 11: 9-10).  It is always the same principle. “He that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life” (John 8: 12).  You will seek in vain to exempt yourself from this moral law of Christianity: the thing is impossible.  “For this cause we also, since the day we heard it, do not cease to pray for you, and to desire that you may be filled with the knowledge of His will in all wisdom and spiritual understanding, that ye might walk worthy of the Lord unto all pleasing, being fruitful in every good work, and increasing by the knowledge of God” (Col 1: 9-10).  The connection between these things is of incalculable value for the soul.  We need to know the Lord to walk in a way worthy of Him; and we grow in the knowledge of God.  “And this I pray, that your love may abound yet more and more in knowledge and in all judgment; that ye may approve things that are excellent; that ye may be sincere and without offence till the day of Christ” (Phil 1: 9-10).  Finally, “the spiritual discerns all things and he himself is discerned of no man” (1 Cor 2: 15).
It is then the will of God, and a will of grace, that men should be capable of discerning His will other than according to their own spiritual state, and, in general, when we think that we are carrying a judgment of the circumstances, it is God who is judging us, us and our state.  Our only business, I repeat, is to keep ourselves close to God.  It would not be the love of God to leave us to discover His will without that.  Such a thing might be convenient to a director of consciences; but the love of God cannot allow us to be spared the discovery and the chastisement of our own moral state.  Thus, if you seek how you may discover the will of God in the details, and apart from this state, you are seeking evil; and this is seen every day.  You will find a Christian in doubt and perplexity, where another, more spiritual, sees as clear as the day, surprised at what is making no difficulty, and understanding that it is quite simply the other’s state which hinders him from seeing it. “He that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off” (2 Pet 1: 9).

As regards circumstances, I believe that a person may be guided by them; and Scripture has pronounced on that, whatever it may be called: to be “held in with bit and bridle”; “I will instruct thee, and teach thee in the way which thou shalt go: I will guide thee with mine eye” (Ps 32).  Such is the promise and privilege of faith which keeps near enough to God to know only His mind towards him; He being faithful to direct thus and promising to do so.  God exhorts us not to be as the horse and the mule which cannot receive intelligently from their master the communication of his mind and his desires; they need to be held in with bit and bridle, which is better than to stumble, to fall or to run counter to the one who leads; but this is after all a sad state.  That is therefore what it is to be guided by circumstances.  God is full of goodness in concerning himself thus with us but it is a sad on our part.
Here, however, we must distinguish between judging circumstances, and acting in the midst of them; he who is led by them always acts blind as to knowing the will of God.  There is absolutely nothing moral in that direction; it is an external force that exercises a control.  Now it is very possible that I may have no idea beforehand of what I shall do, and that: I do not know the circumstances in which I may be found, and cannot consequently make any resolution in advance; and yet,the instant they present themselves, I judge with the clearest divine judgment what is the path of God’s will, what is the mind and power of the Spirit in the midst of these circumstances, and this demands precisely the highest characterof spirituality; instead of being led by circumstances, on is led by God in them, being near enough to God to be able to judge what is suitable, as soon as it is presented.  ‘Impressions’ are not everything,  God can suggest them no doubt, and by His Spirit, He does suggest a thing to the mind; but when it is perceived, its moral character will be as clear as the sun at noon-day. In response to prayer, God can remove from our heart certain carnal influences, and so leave their power in the spirit to certain spiritual influences which give importance to a duty, which had been perhaps entirely obscured by preoccupation caused by some object of our desire.  This may be even be seen between two individuals: one may not have the spiritual discernment to discover what is right; but if another shews the good to him, he sees it clearly himself.  All are not highway engineers, but a waggoner knows well enough a good road when it is made. Thus the impressions which come from God do not always remain simple impressions, but they are usually clear at the same time as they are produced.  I do not doubt, however, that if we walk with Him, and if we listen to Him, God often produces this clarity in the soul.

If Satan, as you put it, raises obstacles, it only shows that they are only obstacles (allowed God) for a good reason, obstacles raised by the accumulation of evil in the circumstances which surround us by the power of evil over other people.

Your third question supposes a person acting in ignorance of God’s will, which should never be the case.  The only rule that can be given as to this is, never to act when we do not know this will.  If you act without knowing it, you will be at the mercy of circumstances.  God overrules all, for this is the case supposed by your question; But why act in such a way as would be if I were ignorant of the will of God?   He will stop me perhaps, because, if I do not walk sufficiently near to God in the sense of my nothingness, I will perhaps lack the faith to accomplish what we have faith enough to discern.

If we are doing our own will or are negligent in our walk, God in His grace may warn us by a hindrance if we pay attention to it, whilst “the simple pass on and are punished” Prov 22: 3).  God may permit, where there is much activity and labour, that Satan should raise up hindrances, in order that we may be kept in His dependence; but God never permits Satan to act otherwise than on the flesh.  He does evil, if we leave the door open between us and him, because we are away from God; but otherwise God uses it only as an instrument to test us to take us away or correct what would be a danger to us, or something that would tend to exalt us.  God allows Satan to cause suffering, and the flesh and the outward mind, in order that the inward man may be kept clean and safe.  If it is a question of anything else, we have only to take our “buts” and open the door to the enemy to trouble us by doubts and difficulties as if they were between God and us, because we no longer “see far”, for “he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not”.

Finally, the question is wholly moral. If any particular question is raised which at the first blush we cannot solve, we shall find very often that it would not have arisen, if our position were good, if spirituality had guarded and kept us instead of making us err.  In such a case, we have only one thing to do, which is to humble ourselves as to matter which it is about, then to examine whether Scripture does not present some principle suitable to direct us. Here evidently spirituality is everything.  Where it can be applied, the principle of looking at what Jesus would have done in such and such a case is excellent, but how often we are not in the circumstances in which He would be found.
It is often useful to ask ourselves whence comes such a desire with us, or the thought of doing this or that; I have found that this alone decides more than half of the difficulties in which men can be found.  The rest of those which remain are the result of haste, or of a former evil.  If the thought is of God and not from the flesh, then we have only to wait on God as to the manner and means by which we shall soon be directed.  There are cases we need direction without motives, as when we hesitate about whether to make one or another.  A life of more ardent charity, or a charity exercised in a more intelligent way, or set in activity in communion with God, will clear the motives of charity which were not but selfishness.  And if, you ask, charity or obedience are not in question?  Well!  Then it is for your first to give me a reason, a motive, for acting in whatever way it is.  If it is your own will that you are pressing, you cannot make the wisdom of God te servant of your will; this is another numerous class of difficulties that God will never solve.  In these cases, He will in grace teach us obedience, and will show us how much time we have lost in our own activity.

Finally “the meek will he guide in judgment, and the meek will he teach his way” (Ps 25: 9).

I have given you all that comes to mind at this moment, and little satisfaction, I fear.  But remember only that the wisdom of God conducts us in the way of God’s will.  If our own will is in activity, God cannot be the servant of it; that is the first point to discover.  It is the secret of the life of Christ.  I know no other principle that God makes use of, however He may pardon and overrule all.  You have asked me for direction: God leads the new man who has no other mind than Christ, and who mortifies the old man.  He purifies us thus that we may bear fruit.

J N Darby – The Father’s Love – Blest Father, infinite in grace,

BLEST FATHER, infinite in grace,
Source of eternal joy;
Thou lead’st our hearts to that blest place
Where rest’s without alloy.

Hymn by John Nelson Darby (1800-1882) 


C.M.

BLEST FATHER, infinite in grace,
Source of eternal joy;
Thou lead’st our hearts to that blest place
Where rest’s without alloy.

There will Thy love find perfect rest,
Where all around is bliss;
Where, all in Thee supremely blest,
Thy praise their service is!

Eternal love their portion is,
Where love has found its rest;
And, filled with Thee, the constant mind
Eternally is blest.

There Christ, the centre of the throng,
Shall in His glory shine;
But not an eye those hosts among
But sees that glory Thine.

Thy counsels too in all Thine own,
Fulfilled by power divine,
Spread wide the glory of Thy throne,
Where all in glory shine.

Yet deeper, if a calmer, joy
The Father’s love shall raise,
And every heart find sweet employ
In His eternal praise!

Nor is its sweetness now unknown –
Well proved in what it’s done;
Our Father’s love with joy we own,
Revealed in Christ the Son!

 J N Darby 1879

In Hymns for the Little Flock 1962 and 1973 No 178 and in Psalms and Hymns and Spiritual Songs 1978 – No 406

J N Darby – The Hope of Day – And is it so, I shall be like Thy Son,

AND is it so, I shall be like Thy Son,
Is this the grace which He for me has won?
Father of glory! Thought beyond all thought,
In glory to His own blest likeness brought!
AND is it so, we shall be like Thy Son,

By John Nelson Darby (1800-1882)


10.10.10.10

AND is it so, I shall be like Thy Son,
Is this the grace which He for me has won?
Father of glory! Thought beyond all thought,
In glory to His own blest likeness brought!

O Jesus, Lord, who loved me like to Thee?
Fruit of Thy work! With Thee, too, there to see
Thy glory, Lord, while endless ages roll,
Myself the prize and travail of Thy soul.

Yet it must be! Thy love had not its rest
Were Thy redeemed not with Thee fully blest –
That love that gives not as the world, but shares
All it possesses with its loved co-heirs!

Nor I alone; Thy loved ones all, complete,
In glory around Thee with joy shall meet;
All like Thee, for Thy glory like Thee, Lord!
Object supreme of all, by all adored!

And yet it must be so! A perfect state,
To meet Christ’s perfect love – what we await;
The Spirit’s hopes, desires, in us inwrought,
Our present joy – with living blessings fraught.

The heart is satisfied, can ask no more;
All thought of self is now for ever o’er;
Christ, its unmingled Object, fills the heart
In blest adoring love – its endless part.

Father of mercies, in Thy presence bright
All this shall be unfolded in the light;
Thy children, all, with joy Thy counsels know
Fulfilled; patient in hope while here below.

[1872]

Edited version in Hymns for the Little Flock 1962 and 1973 and in Psalms and Hymns and Spiritual Songs 1978 – No 247

AND is it so, we shall be like Thy Son,

J N Darby – Dans ce Désert aride, et sans Chemin tracé,

Dans ce désert aride
Et sans chemin tracé,
Mon modèle et mon guide,
Mon Sauveur a passé.
Par lui je viens au Père ;
Il est tout mon bonheur ;
Aussi rien sur la terre
N’a d’attrait pour mon cœur.

oasisCantique française écrite par M John Nelson Darby (1800-81)
Version anglaise cliquez ici

Dans ce désert aride
Et sans chemin tracé,
Mon modèle et mon guide,
Mon Sauveur a passé.
Par lui je viens au Père ;
Il est tout mon bonheur ;
Aussi rien sur la terre
N’a d’attrait pour mon cœur.

Sur lui ma foi repose.
Puis-je le suivre en vain,
Ou perdre quelque chose,
Quand lui-même est mon gain ?
Si les biens de la vie
Prétendent m’arrêter,
Sa puissance infinie
Me les fait rejeter.

Heureux, l’âme affranchie,
Avançant vers le ciel,
Déjà je m’associe
Au cantique éternel.
Douleurs, fatigue ou peine,
N’ébranlent point ma foi.
L’épreuve est toute pleine
De fruits bénis pour moi.

Dans ce trajet d’une heure
Où je suis engagé,
Si je gémis et pleure,
Suis-je découragé ?
Non, ta grâce parfaite
Est mon constant recours ;
Ton bâton, ta houlette,
Me consolent toujours.

Ô Jésus, pain de vie
Que je goûte ici-bas,
Ta vertu fortifie
Mon âme à chaque pas.
Pour t’être enfin semblable,
Bientôt je te verrai
Dans ta gloire ineffable,
Et je t’adorerai !

Infallibility of Scripture

God alone is infallible; for “infallible” means one who cannot fail. Truth is not the same as infallibility; truth is the opposite to error, not to fallibility.

lay-preachingObjection:  You cannot say that anything is infallible.

Answer:  God alone is infallible; for “infallible” means one who cannot fail. Truth is not the same as infallibility; truth is the opposite to error, not to fallibility.

Scripture comes from God; it presents the truth; it is infallible. But there is no need to defend it to the infidel who rejects it. However, There is a difference between infallibility and perfect truth. If I question the infallibility of scripture, I am making a statement about the book. However when I reject perfect truth, I avoid facing what affects my conscience.

In strict logic, only one who is incapable of erring, is infallible in what he says,

Pourquoi je ne pourrais pas être Baptiste. – Baptême des Croyants – Baptême des Enfants – Baptême de la Maison

Dans l’état de confusion où se trouve l’Eglise, et dans l’oubli même qu’il y en ait une, il est tout naturel qu’on agisse en pareil cas d’après ses convictions individuelles. Mais lorsqu’il s’agit de détruire l’unité de l’Eglise, la question est plus sérieuse. Les Baptistes sont une secte, et c’est assez dire, à mon avis, pour ne pas en être. Si un frère croit devoir être baptisé, je n’ai jamais même cherché à l’en détourner, bien que, s’il a déjà été baptisé, je crois qu’il se trompe dans sa manière de voir. Mais, s’il croit que c’est selon la Parole, il fait très bien, selon moi, de le faire. Seulement qu’il ne rompe pas l’unité du corps.

Lettre de J N Darby sur le Baptême

J N Darby
John Nelson Darby

La lettre suivante écrit en français, tirée du Messager Evangélique (lettre n ° 431), par John Nelson Darby, expose sa position sur le baptême, en particulier le baptême des croyants, pratiqué par les baptistes et d’autres chrétiens évangéliques.  En raison de la confusion qui règne autour de cet important sujet, il convient également de publier ma traduction (légèrement modifiée) ici.  Voici la version originale.

 

Montpellier 1851

A Monsieur L. F.

L’état de l’église

Dans l’état de confusion où se trouve l’Eglise, et dans l’oubli même qu’il y en ait une, il est tout naturel qu’on agisse en pareil cas d’après ses convictions individuelles. Mais lorsqu’il s’agit de détruire l’unité de l’Eglise, la question est plus sérieuse. Les Baptistes sont une secte, et c’est assez dire, à mon avis, pour ne pas en être. Si un frère croit devoir être baptisé, je n’ai jamais même cherché à l’en détourner, bien que, s’il a déjà été baptisé, je crois qu’il se trompe dans sa manière de voir. Mais, s’il croit que c’est selon la Parole, il fait très bien, selon moi, de le faire. Seulement qu’il ne rompe pas l’unité du corps.

 

Les baptistes citent: «Ainsi il nous est convenable d’accompli toute justice.»

Ayant dit cela, je vous donnerai quelques principes généraux sur ce sujet. Les raisonnements des baptistes sont si loin de me convaincre (j’ai lu le traité laissé à Montpellier par M. Devine, qui ne dit rien d’autre que ce que j’avais déjà lu souvent) que je trouve dans ces raisonnements, sans qu’ils s’en doutent, le renversement des principes fondamentaux du christianisme, et une ignorance complète de ce qu’est le baptême chrétien. Ils parlent du baptême de Jean, et de ce que le Seigneur a dit : “Ainsi il nous est convenable d’accompli toute justice” (Matthieu 3:15) Réfléchissez-y. Est-ce que le chrétien accomplit la justice en satisfaisant à ce qu’exigent des ordonnances ? Est-ce là un principe chrétien, ou le renversement du christianisme ? De plus, le baptême de Jean est absolument nul pour les chrétiens; c’était un baptême pour les Juifs seuls, baptême qui supposait l’entrée, par la repentance, dans ces privilèges du royaume, et ne supposait nullement la mort et la résurrection de Christ, mais exactement le contraire. Ce baptême n’avait pas non plus lieu en Son nom, ni en rapport avec les vérités annoncées dans l’Evangile. Par conséquent, ceux qui avaient  le baptême de Jean étaient plus tard baptisés au nom du Seigneur, comme s’ils n’eussent encore reçu aucun baptême. (voir Actes 19:4-5). On vient donc m’engager à me faire baptiser comme obéissant à une ordonnance, pour accomplir la justice (principe qui renverse le christianisme dans ses fondements), et d’un baptême qui est l’exclusion de la mort et de la résurrection de Christ (seul vrai sens du baptême chrétien). Or, historiquement, ce baptême appartient d’une telle manière à un système qui précédait le christianisme que l’on baptisait celui qui l’avait reçu aussi bien qu’un Juif ou un païen. La mort et la résurrection de Christ forment la base d’une nouvelle création à laquelle le baptême de Jean ne se rapportait nullement. Lorsque j’entends de pareils arguments, ils ne font donc que me convaincre que ceux qui les emploient (tout en étant très sincères), ne comprennent pas les premiers éléments du sujet qu’ils traitent, et, sans le vouloir ni le savoir, renversent les fondements de la vérité chrétienne.

Mais il y a encore d’autres points qui me font rejeter le système baptiste : c’est que je nie leur principe d’obéissance à une ordonnance et en particulier à l’ordonnance (disent-ils) du baptême. Le baptême est un privilège accordé et l’acte est celui de là personne qui baptise, non de celle qui est baptisée. Je nie qu’il y ait une telle pensée dans la Parole que l’obéissance au baptême, ou qu’il y ait un commandement adressé aux hommes, d’accomplir l’acte de se faire baptiser.

 

Le Baptême est envisagé comme un Privilège

Premièrement, je nie que l’idée d’obéissance à une ordonnance appartienne au système chrétien. Je reconnais que Christ a établi le baptême et la Cène; mais l’obéissance à des ordonnances est ce qui a été détruit, comme principe, à la croix. (voir Col.2:14; Eph2:15). Lorsqu’il s’agit de la Cène, “faites ceci en mémoire de moi” est une direction à l’égard du but du symbole. Toutes les fois qu’on en mangerait, on devait le faire dans ce but. Ce n’est pas un commandement pour le faire, mais une direction pour le faire avec intelligence lorsqu’on le ferait.

Pour le baptême en particulier, le commandement donné est d’aller baptiser, c’est-à-dire que cet acte était l’acte des apôtres en recevant les Gentils dans l’Eglise. Et ceci est si vrai que les apôtres n’ont pas pu être baptisés, mais ont fait baptiser ceux qui recevaient leur doctrine.

En examinant les cas présentés, je trouve que le baptême est envisagé comme un privilège accordé à quelqu’un que l’on admet dans la maison de Dieu, et n’est jamais un acte d’obéissance, ni de témoignage. “Quelqu’un pourrait-il refuser l’eau”, dit l’apôtre “pour que ceux-ci ne soient pas baptisés, eux qui ont reçu l’Esprit saint comme nous-mêmes ?“(Actes 10:47) “Qu’est-ce qui m’empêche d’être baptisé ?” (Actes 8:36) dit l’eunuque. Evidemment, dans ce cas, il ne s’agit pas d’obéissance, mais d’un privilège accordé, d’une admission aux privilèges dont d’autres jouissaient. Je ferai remarquer en passant que, bien qu’il soit clair qu’un adulte, païen ou juif, a dû croire pour être baptisé, les mots : “si tu crois de tout ton cœur, cela est permis(Actes 8:37) sont rejetés, comme étrangers à la Parole par toutes les personnes qui se sont occupées de l’authenticité du texte. Les apôtres ont reçu l’ordre du Seigneur pour baptiser.

J’ajoute que l’idée des baptistes que le baptême est le signe de ce que nous sommes est aussi contraire à la Parole, car il est dit : “Vous êtes ensevelis avec Lui dans le baptême, dans lequel aussi vous avez été ressuscités.” (Colossiens 2:12). Cela n’est donc pas basé sur la supposition que nous sommes déjà morts et ressuscité. Au contraire : en figure nous mourons et nous ressuscitons dans le baptême même, c’est-à-dire qu’il signifie que nous ne l’étions pas auparavant. C’est le signe de la chose par laquelle nous entrons, et non pas le signe de notre état à nous.

Je rejette entièrement tout le système baptiste, parce que je reçois les enseignements de la parole de Dieu. Je suis parfaitement convaincu qu’il est faux dans toutes ses parties. Il y a un ordre de baptiser donné aux apôtres, mais le baptême n’est pas le sujet d’un commandement particulier pour celui qui est baptisé. La différence est du tout au tout dans le caractère de l’acte. Si je donne l’ordre à mon agent d’affaires de remettre cent francs à telle personne, ou si je confère une lettre de bourgeoisie à quelqu’un, c’est tout autre chose qu’obéissance de la part de celui qui les reçoit.

 

Le baptême est la réception d’une personne au milieu de l’Assemblée chrétienne

Cependant rejeter ce qui et faux n’est pas tout ce qu’on a à faire. Il s’agit de connaître la vérité pour pouvoir glorifier Dieu; mais la question est devenue beaucoup plus simple. Le baptême est la réception d’une personne au milieu de l’Assemblée chrétienne ici-bas, dans ce monde. Je ne crois pas que celui qui lit le Nouveau Testament sans prévention pourrait le nier. Qui donc alors doit être reçu dans cette Assemblée, le baptême étant reconnu être le moyen de les recevoir (car je suis d’accord sur ce point avec les baptistes)? J’accepte bien que, à l’égard des hommes faits, païens ou Juifs, en un mot à l’égard de ceux qui n’ont jamais été reçus (car ce serait aussi le cas d’un quaker ou de l’enfant d’un baptiste) ce sont ceux qui croient qui doivent être baptisés, car on ne peut recevoir un adulte (qui doit agir selon sa responsabilité à lui) que sur sa propre responsabilité. C’est tout simple, à moins qu’on ne le pousse à la rivière, l’épée dans les reins, comme fit Charlemagne à l’égard des Saxons.

Mais la question qui reste est celle-ci ! Est-ce que les enfants de parents chrétiens doivent être reçus au sein de l’Assemblée ?

Il faut ici que je dise un mot à l’égard de l’Assemblée même, parce que je crois que ce qui fait naître les difficultés, c’est l’ignorance de ce qu’est l’Assemblée de Dieu sur la terre. Je dis l’Assemblée et non les assemblées. Les baptisés devenaient, par le baptême, membres de l’Assemblée chrétienne sur la terre, non d’une assemblée. Or cette Assemblée est la maison de Dieu où demeure le Saint Esprit. Le monde est le désert où règne Satan. L’Assemblée est “l’habitation de Dieu par l’Esprit” (Éphésiens 2:22)  . Dans cette Assemblée on est admis par le baptême, et il est si vrai qu’elle est l’habitation de l’Esprit que le chap.VI des Hébreux suppose que l’on peut être rendu participant du Saint Esprit sans être converti. Dans ce cas, celui qui avait l’Esprit ainsi, n’était pas réellement du corps de Christ, mais il possédait le Saint Esprit dans le sens d’un don, étant dans la maison où l’Esprit demeurait et agissait. Ainsi Ananias et Sapphira ont menti au Saint Esprit. Dans ce cas-ci, c’était de la présence qu’il s’agissait, non d’un don, mais la chose est la même pour le point qui nous occupe. Or il s’agit de savoir si les enfants des chrétiens peuvent être reçus dans cette maison, ou si l’on devait les laisser dans le monde où règne Satan. Il ne s’agit pas de commandement; je nie tout commandement pour une ordonnance et en particulier pour le baptême. Il n’y en a pas pour un adulte. Il s’agit de savoir quelle est la volonté de Dieu à l’égard de ce privilège. Or il est clair pour moi, d’après la Parole, que les enfants doivent être reçus. Il est de toute évidence que ç’aurait été un changement introduit dans le système de Dieu, de ne pas les recevoir, changement qui, du reste, n’a pas été signalé. Or voici quelques passages qui me font voir, d’une manière positive, les pensées de Dieu à cet égard. Avant de les citer je pose comme un principe reconnu, car je le crois scripturaire, que le baptême est le moyen voulu du Seigneur pour recevoir extérieurement dans l’assemblée de Dieu et que sa signification est la mort et la résurrection de Christ. Mais ici, je dois en passant, faire encore remarquer que les vues de plusieurs sur ce point sont décidément antiscripturaires. Ils supposent que les ordonnances et en particulier le baptême sont le signe de l’état où se trouve celui qui y participe. Or cette idée est opposée au témoignage de la Parole. Le baptisé participe figurément à l’acte de l’ordonnance qui n’est nullement un signe qu’il y participait avant. Ainsi, le baptême n’est pas le signe qu’un homme participe à la mort et à la résurrection de Christ. Le baptême est (en figure), la participation à ces choses par cet acte même. Le témoignage de (Colossiens 2:12) est positif à cet égard : “Vous êtes ensevelis avec lui par le baptême dans lequel vous êtes ressuscités avec lui. C’est dans l’acte que la participation a eu lieu; il n’est pas le signe d’une participation qui le précède. Il en est de même à l’égard de la Cène, on y mange (en figure) le corps rompu; on y boit le sang répandu. Ce n’est pas une figure qu’on l’a déjà fait. Ce même principe se trouve en Rom.VI, 4; d’autres passages le confirment.

 

Baptême et Petits Enfants

Ayant mis ce principe au clair, et ayant montré que l’idée baptiste n’est pas fondée, que la Parole contredit leur idée que le baptême est le signe qu’on est déjà mort et ressuscité, tandis que la Parole enseigne que nous y mourons et ressuscitons (en figure); ayant, dis-je, tiré tout cela au clair, j’en viens aux passages qui m’autorisent à croire que les enfants des chrétiens sont les objets de cette faveur, le baptême étant le moyen de les en faire jouir.

Le chap. 18 de Matthieu est un passage frappant, montrant de quelle manière Dieu envisage les enfants. Le Seigneur a pris un petit enfant (v.2), non une personne convertie (il distingue même (v.6) un enfant qui croit, des autres) et il déclare qu’il faut devenir tel; que leurs anges voient continuellement la face de son Père qui est dans les cieux (v.10), c’est-à-dire qu’ils sont les objets de Sa faveur spéciale. Mais le témoignage est quelque chose de beaucoup plus précis que cela : Ils sont perdus; Christ est venu, est-il dit (v.11), “pour sauver ce qui était perdu“, car “ce n’est pas la volonté de votre Père qui est dans les cieux, qu’un seul de ces petits périsse.” (v.14). En recevant un petit enfant en son nom, je reçois Christ, et je reconnais que, tout en étant enfants, ce petit être est perdu; mais qu’il est l’objet de l’amour du Père que je connais, et qu’il n’y a pas d’autre moyen de salut, même pour un enfant, que la mort et la résurrection de Christ; et je l’introduis dans la maison par ce moyen. Le témoignage est donc plus fort, que nous sommes nés enfants de colère.

J’ai déjà montré que le baptême n’est pas un témoignage rendu à l’état de l’individu, mais l’admission de l’individu est un témoignage à la valeur de l’œuvre de Christ. Le baptiste, je le sais me dira : “Mais vous admettez un petit païen ?” La Parole me dit tout le contraire. Elle dit que si l’un des parents est chrétien, les enfants sont saints; or ils ne sont pas saints de nature; c’est une sainteté relative, c’est-à-dire un droit d’entrée dans la maison. C’est le sens de ce mot dans la Bible. Ils ne sont pas souillés, profanes. Un Juif qui épousait une femme des nations était profané, et les enfants profanes, et la femme devait être renvoyée avec eux. Mais le christianisme est un système de grâce, et la femme, au lieu de rendre son mari profane, est sanctifiée, et les enfants sont saints. Et ceci est la force propre et la portée évidente du passage, car il s’agit de savoir si un croyant devait renvoyer sa femme non convertie. Ainsi les enfants, étant saints, ont droit d’entrer dans la maison, et c’est l’avantage réel dont ils jouissent.

Parler d’enfants légitimes est un non-sens, car ce ne sont que les lois modernes qui ont fait faire cette distinction en pareil cas.

On me demandera [peut-être] pourquoi [alors], ne pas donner la Cène aux enfants ? Je réponds: parce que la lumière de la Parole m’en empêche. La Cène, envisagée sous ce point de vue, est la figure de l’unité du corps. Nous sommes tous un seul corps, en tant que nous participons tous à ce seul pain. Or c’est par un seul Esprit que nous sommes tous baptisés pour être un seul corps, c’est-à-dire qu’il faut être baptisé du Saint Esprit pour prendre la Cène.

“Enfants, obéissez à vos parents”, ne saurait se dire si les enfants n’étaient pas dedans. On n’adresse pas des préceptes à des païens. Je vois donc que Christ, qui a reçu les enfant, veut que nous les recevions en Son nom, et qu’en le faisant nous le recevions, Lui. Remarquez qu’en Matthieu 18 , le Seigneur applique la parabole de la brebis perdue aux petits enfants (c’était, à la lettre, un petit enfant qui était là). Je repousse entièrement toute consécration à Dieu en dehors du baptême. Non seulement cette pratique baptiste est une convention humaine, mais (sans le vouloir, j’en conviens), c’est prétendre pouvoir présenter les enfants à Dieu sans la mort et la résurrection de Christ. Si l’on peut les présenter à Dieu par la mort et la résurrection de Christ, ils sont les sujets du baptême : le faire autrement c’est nier le christianisme; ne pas les consacrer, c’est impossible pour un chrétien. Selon moi, le baptiste prive son enfant de la protection de la maison de Dieu et des soins de l’Esprit et le laisse dans le monde où Satan règne, au lieu (quoiqu’il soit heureusement inconséquent) de l’élever dans la discipline du Seigneur…

 

Résumé

Enfin je nie entièrement qu’il y ait un commandement d’être baptisé, comme affaire d’obéissance. Je dis que le principe est faux et que le baptême est toujours présenté dans la Parole d’une manière entièrement opposée à cette idée qui fait le fondement du système baptiste; qu’il s’agit d’une réception dans l’église, de la jouissance du privilège de l’introduction dans la maison où est l’Esprit, que citer le baptême de Jean-Baptiste, c’est l’ignorance des premiers principes du christianisme et de la nature même du baptême chrétien, et que le baptême, envisagé d’après la Parole comme étant une réception par l’Eglise, appartient aux enfants des chrétiens, selon la faveur de Dieu, et parce qu’ils sont saints. C’est le contraire de la profanation d’un juif qui avait épousé une étrangère. Les enfants sont saints comme dans le cas d’un Juif ils étaient profanes. Je répète ceci, parce qu’on cherche à employer ce mot pour affaiblir cette preuve scripturaire, tandis qu’il ne fait que rendre plus claires la vérité et la portée des passages.

Voilà un aperçu de ce qui, j’en suis parfaitement convaincu, est la véritable idée selon la Parole. Cette Parole ne laisse absolument rien du système baptiste. Cependant si quelqu’un, individuellement, pense qu’il n’a pas été baptisé, je ne le blâme pas s’il se fait baptiser, au contraire, je respecte sa conscience comme la conscience de celui qui croit devoir ne manger que des herbes. Mais si, de ce manque de lumière on fait une secte, je le condamne totalement. Or il est de toute évidence que le système baptiste est pure ignorance. Il est vraiment impossible qu’un homme puisse parler d’accomplir la justice en se faisant baptiser d’après l’exemple de Jésus avec Jean-Baptiste, s’il possède la moindre lumière sur les voies de Dieu en Christ. Il peut être sincère, mais son ignorance est très grande à l’égard de la vérité de l’Evangile.

 

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Salutations en Christ Sosthenes/Sosthène

John Nelson Darby

A Letter to those who might know me

I am therefore seeking, with God’s help to produce some simplified summaries of helpful articles, papers and ministry, presented in a way that is more intelligible to Christians in the 21st century, and accessible using current technology, and above all free of sectarianism, the ministry being for the whole Church of God. I seek humbly to keep to the essential message, and cover it adequately without introducing my own ideas and thoughts. The site is in its early stages www.adayofsmallthings.com. Please have a look at it.

Not the ruler of the synagogue but a brother
Sosthenes

Dear brother or sister in the Lord

Having retired I have been seeking direction from God as to how to use my time, abilities and resources to His glory, whilst recognising limitations, both physical and above all spiritual.

As some may know I have done some translation work on JND’s letters, so his ministry has been opened up to me more freshly.  For many years I had regarded it as beyond me in many ways, and I would still say that it is as Peter said of Paul ‘hard to be understood’.

If that is true of me, what of my fellow believers, most of whom have not enjoyed the privileges I have had of being under teaching, and able to participate in reading meetings where this ministry, and that of others, were valued and generally felt to be of the Spirit of God.

I am therefore seeking, with God’s help to produce some simplified summaries of helpful articles, papers and ministry, presented in a way that is more intelligible to Christians in the 21st century, and accessible using current technology, and above all free of sectarianism, the ministry being for the whole Church of God.  I seek humbly to keep to the essential message, and cover it adequately without introducing my own ideas and thoughts.   The site is in its early stages www.adayofsmallthings.com.  Please have a look at it.

In order not to draw attention to myself, I am using a pseudonym, Sosthenes (he just wanted to be a brother). Sosthenes Hoadelphos on Facebook; @BroSosthenes on Twitter.

Yes – this is the real ‘me’!

The ministry itself, of course, is not infallible:  and my simplified summaries are certainly not.  Without getting into arguments I would value the comments as to content or style by any who feel I have not explained things well, or have missed the point.  Let the righteous smite me; it shall be a kindness Psalm 141:5.

I look forward to your comments, either by e-mail (Sosthenes@adoss.co.uk) or by making comments on the site.

With love and greetings in Christ.

Your brother

Sosthenes

August 2013

The Love of God 1 John 4:9 
by J. N. Darby

God presents what He is to men, so we know that He is holy, righteous and love. He is love, and love draws me. Love is the divine nature.

I need to be separate from evil: “Without holiness no man shall see the Lord.” (Heb 12:14). It is not said, ‘He is holiness’. Indeed I as a sinner would be repelled by mere holiness. He is holy. He is just, and He is of purer eyes than to behold iniquity. (Hab 1:13) He may be the God of judgment, but He blesses His own so that they might be eternally happy in holiness, for He is holy love.

A summary by Sosthenes

J N Darby
John Nelson Darby

God presents what He is to men, so we know that He is holy, righteous and love.  He is love, and love draws me.  Love is the divine nature.

I need to be separate from evil:  “Without holiness no man shall see the Lord.” (Heb 12:14).  It is not said, ‘He is holiness’.  Indeed I as a sinner would be repelled by mere holiness.  He is holy. He is just, and He is of purer eyes than to behold iniquity(Hab 1:13)  He may be the God of judgment, but He blesses His own so that they might be eternally happy in holiness, for He is holy love.

Whatever our state may be, God is perfect in His love, and He would make us learn, enjoy and walk in it now, not when we get to heaven.

Our selfish, unbelieving nature hinders us down here, but this only serves to magnify God’s grace and love.  In spite of all, He brings us to the knowledge of perfect love because “Perfect love casteth out fear, for fear hath torment” (v.18).   If, when thinking of God, we fear, we have torment.  That is the conscience.   Man may seek to bury his conscience, but only succeeds in hardening it.

If we seek peace in ordinances, it is not love but fear. The effect of true ministry is to put the soul in direct contact with God.  False ministry brings in something between the soul and God.

The soul must have the blessed consciousness of perfect peace with God.  God brings you into the joy of His perfect love in His presence; “Who shall separate us? … More than conquerors.” (Rom. 8:35)

The family character of the children of God is light and love.  It is God’s nature, and seen in both in Christ and in all God’s children.  I must have the new nature to know this; but how do I get it?  Where is it found?  In Jesus Christ Himself, image of the invisible God. (Col 1:15).   In Christ I find a perfect manifestation of His love. “Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us(v10).

There is no mention of anything required of us, but the simple fact of what we were “dead in trespasses and sins.” (Eph. 2:1)

Though He is a God of judgment, He brought out the means of our approach: through Christ’s sacrifice.  Abel’s faith testified how man was to approach to God, so from Abel downwards God showed mercy.

Man as man refuses to come to God “none righteous.”  (Rom. 3:10) When Christ comes, it is another thing altogether.  God now approaches man in grace; not man approaching God.  He visited men in their sins, “that they might live through him.” (v.9)  All around was darkness, degradation, and idolatry. God took them out of that condition that they might live through Christ. “God has given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.”  (1 John 5:10). Thus we are brought into His presence.

We live through His only-begotten Son. He is bringing us into His presence, before the One in whom all His delight was from eternity.  It is the eternal enjoyment of it to know eternal life in the Son; but down here we often question it, because we do not see this love in us. He is “a propitiation for our sins.(1 John 2:2)

God has loved me not only when I wanted it, but because His knew what I wanted.  He has not mistaken my case; Christ on the cross made the propitiation for my sins.  So I can say, “Herein is love.” (v.10)  I have found God, and my soul rests there. The cloud has been taken away for ever. If you say, ‘I have committed such and such a sin’; I answer, ‘It is for the sins you had or still have that Christ died; for He died for your sins.’

He cannot bear sin, and therefore He must put the sinner in his sins away, because He cannot bear the sins.  I learn to judge sin according to God, because I am brought into the light.  I find many sins in myself. He is the propitiation for my sins. I believe this, and then I enter into communion with Him. Why do I find fear and torment when I find sin in myself?   Can I not trust that love?  Have I not believed the love God has towards me?

God does not expect fruit from man, but His grace produces fruit.  We should feel sin, and know it has been blotted out.  We are told that  “The glory thou hast given me I have given them, that the world may know that thou hast loved them as thou hast loved me.” (John 17:24)  “There is no fear in love.” (v.18).   It is a matter of communion and we live through Him. “… Perfect love casteth out fear.”

I am not honouring God, if I do not trust the work of Christ in love on the cross.  I come to Him just as I am, and then I know God.  He enables me to trust in blood of Jesus Christ His Son – the perfectness of His work in putting away sin.

 

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