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The Church and the Gospel – The Church does not Teach or Preach

The Church – the Body of Christ here on earth is to serve Him. Christians preach and teach. The Church itself does not.

Why I am Saying that the Church does not Preach

I was born in 1945 so they call me an ‘early baby boomer’.  (1945 to 1960).  I was writing a letter from my generation to Millennials, also known as Generation Y (born 1981 to 1996), but all, the intervening generation as well would be interested.

Things were very different for those of us who grew up immediately after WW2, easier times I would say, and that affected our spiritual development.  Now as we are getting older we have to see many wasted years – reminding us of that scripture:  Tell ye your children of it, and let your children tell their children, and their children another generation.  That which the palmerworm hath left hath the locust eaten; and that which the locust hath left hath the cankerworm eaten; and that which the cankerworm hath left hath the caterpiller eaten’ (Joel 1:3-4).  God in His mercy goes on,  And I will restore to you the years that the locust hath eaten, the cankerworm, and the caterpiller, and the palmerworm, my great army which I sent among you. And ye shall eat in plenty, and be satisfied, and praise the name of the LORD your God’ (ch 2:15-26).  So, we have to redeem the time because the days are evil (see Eph 5:16).  That applies to my generation, and to all, including those left of the pre-war generations.

The world is evil now – it always has been, but there are certain pressures unique to the 21st century.  On the positive side we are generally better off, and benefit from modern communications, technology and ease of travel.  When I was young mobile phones were science fiction, and the world-wide-web had not even been conceived.  We had our bikes and a lot more freedom, which I think made us happier and healthier.

We admire our Younger Brethren and their Testimony

So:

      Peer pressure was nothing like what it is now.  You did not have to have the latest gizmo, and your status was not available for the world to see 24/7 on Facebook or Instagram.

      Social liberal attitudes had not developed: ‘Gay’ meant ‘living merrily’ (not necessarily happily), divorce and abortion were frowned upon, if not illegal, and people would be horrified by the idea of selecting one’s sex (I don’t use the word ‘gender’). Whilst you could be mocked for standing for what was right as a Christian, there was not that militant secularism.

      People regarded evolution as a theory not a fact, though most accepted it.

      You could get a good job without having to go to university (You still had to study) – and if you did go to uni, there were no tuition fees and you could get a grant towards living expenses

      It was easier to get on the property ladder.

I could go on.

Under these circumstances, I admire the way that many young brothers and sisters are applying themselves to the Lord’s things and studying the scriptures. I hear of meet-ups for prayer, study and evangelisation.  In the break at meetings I have seen (and sometimes entered) into discussion groups on spiritual matters and I witnessed a group of young sisters with their study bibles out.

Younger people in many places are enthusiastic – and for the things of the Lord they should be.  But so often the enthusiasm is ‘church-centred’ not ‘Christ centred’. 

At a recent meeting the subject was our preaching the glad tidings.  What was emphasised was that preaching was an individual, not an assembly matter.  I heard an aside remark suggesting that what we were talking about were ‘technicalities’.  Sorry, I see these things as being pretty fundamental.

In the early days preaching started in the open air.  Peter’s first preaching was such.  Paul would go into a synagogue and preach there (if he was allowed to) – not a Christian assembly.  John Wesley and others were renowned for open air preaching.  His preaching was individual – because the church as an entity does not preach.

Brian Parr Open-air ChesterThe Church and the Gospel

I fully understand the concerns of my younger brethren.  My generation was not active enough in preaching to others.  I think that we – brothers and sisters – are coming to recognise that we had gone on with a line that put the collective position, not the Lord, at the centre.  We ended up smugly in a socially happy group of white middle-class Christians, content with a stack of ministry, claiming (some would even say exclusively) to represent the assembly in a broken day.  If you ask me, that was pretty Laodicean.  Looking back, we had probably been let down by our parents’ and grandparents’ generations when we were young.  Where I was brought up, Godly influential and gifted men, whom we looked up to, tolerated the 1960’s Taylor Exclusive system.  As a result we were  coloured by it, even if as young people, we rebelled against it. 

This was not unique to one company of Christians.  Formalism and authoritarianism permeated Christendom.  Well organised, successfully managed operations, be they churches or businesses, have outward success – one may be measured in ‘converts’, the other in profit.  But who are the measurers and who is determining the criteria for success?

Some Preaching is like Entertanment

Alongside this, there has been a line which matches Christian service with worldly entertainment.   Many Catholic and Protestant establishments put on spectacular performances and processions with wonderful form, clothing, pomp and circumstance. Elsewhere the show may be more modern and charismatic, helped by the latest technology – sound and light systems, a good band (modern music) and a church hall which is more like a theatre or music-hall than anything else.  Is this to the glory of God?

So, where does that leave us?  Paul, when he came to Corinth (Maybe the entertainment hub of the Mediterranean) said, ‘And I, brethren, when I came to you, came not with excellency of speech or of wisdom, declaring unto you the testimony of God.  For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.  And I was with you in weakness, and in fear, and in much trembling.  And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man’s wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power: that your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God’ (1 Cor 2:1-5).  Paul would not have been successful by worldly standards.  Small wonder that sober Christians are not either.

I believe that in the early 1800’s there was a line of scripturally correct teaching which had a strong influence among evangelically-minded Christians worldwide.  I have little doubt that this was a movement of the Holy Spirit similar in character to the Reformation.  Brethren and other evangelicals departed from that, some institutionalising the teaching, and others taking certain aspects only. Both were wrong. 

 

Important Truths

Here are some of the scriptural truths to which Christians were recovered:

1.     The understanding that the church (ἐκκλησία/ekklésia/Strong 1577) is heavenly in origin and destiny.  It is not part of the world system and is here comprising all believers.  Christ is its Head (See Eph 1:22 – 2:6) – Christ has been made Head over all things to the church, and we have been made to sit in the heavenly places in Christ). 

2.     That the hope of the church is the coming of Christ to call us to be with Him (See 1 Thess 4:13-18, Rev 22:17)

3.     That the church publicly is in ruins, having departed from the Lord and the teaching of the apostles.  This was already anticipated by Paul in Acts 20:19-30, and when it had taken place, we have a path for the believer in 2 Tim 2:19-22.

Some of us who are older, and therefore more responsible, are concerned to get back to basics.  Our worlds have been turned upside down.  The more we look at our histories, the more we realise that we had departed from what we really knew (or sometimes misunderstood).  Small wonder that we want to get back to fundamentals with the Lord’s help and the direction of the Holy Spirit.

 

Preaching and Teaching

Now, to get back to our subject of the relationship of the church to the preaching of the glad tidings, I need to make two things clear:

1.     THE CHURCH DOES NOT TEACH!

2.     THE CHURCH DOES NOT PREACH!

Of course, this is contrary to what might be accepted generally in churches who regard themselves as authoritative corporate entities.  These bodies cannot be the church – the body and bride of Christ, whatever their intention, they are man-made organisations.  If you look at church websites, they usually emphasise what they are in the community, and include a ‘canned’ statement of faith. What is more, they usually have a single leader – pastor, vicar or whatever, and run on human management lines.  That person will have a line of teaching, partly related to his ecclesiastical hierarchy, and partly his (or her) understanding.  Hence you hear people say, ‘What does your church teach about XYZ?’.

We must be thankful that many places preach Christ as the one and only Saviour for sinners.  He bore our sins on the cross and shed His blood.  (I trust every reader of this letter is fully in the enjoyment of the certainty of these things).  You find many devout souls who love the Lord everywhere.  However, they are often defective in several ways:

Some Error in Evangelical Christendom

1.     Often (in Pentecostal, Adventist and Methodist) establishments there is Arminian error, for example – saved today and lost tomorrow, despite what the Lord says as to His sheep in John 10.

2.     In very few cases there is no real expectation of the Lord’s coming.  Many are striving to make this world a better place, with a view to the kingdom being established here (into which the Lord can come).

3.     Many deny the rapture despite its being clear in 1 Thess 4.

4.     Few understand that the church is heavenly in origin and destiny, typified in the sheet in Acts 11 – it came from heaven and went back.  It is the body of Christ here caring for His interests.  

5.     There is much confusion as to the millennium, with some thinking we are there already – not the period between the first and second resurrections (see Rev 20:4-6)

The fact they are teaching and preaching different things, often not in accordance with scripture, just emphasises this.

When a company of Christians assumes – officially or unofficially – a corporate identity, it is time to leave.  This may be painful, as my wife and I found in 2017.  But the Lord promised a hundredfold (see Matt 19:29).   We have met other Christians leaving other man-made organisations too.  The Lord knows those that are His’ ( 2 Tim 2:19).

Having left one company there is a temptation to look round and borrow things from elsewhere.  One could say ‘Where we were, we got things wrong – elsewhere they might be right’. This is the human way.  I know there are some exciting things going on in many churches, but you and your work will be truly effective if you are with the Lord individually.

I have attended several meetings recently in which the Lord has given a distinct word as to the maintenance of what has been established (the ancient landmarks) and doing things according to the due order (not like David in 2 Sam 6).  We all have to take this to heart.

Iranian Christians – from the Joel Group

Finally, I would like to reproduce something I read a few weeks ago, concerning a group of Christians with whom, I guess no reader of A Day of Small Things enjoys practical fellowship.  I get emails from the Joel Group, which I like because they give a positive view about what God is doing, in this case, in Iran.  Over the years the ayatollahs have descried churches and nominal Christians have given in.  The writer says, ‘The fastest-growing church in the world has taken root in one of the most unexpected and radicalized nations on earth, according to ‘Sheep Among Wolves’, an outstanding two-hour documentary about revival. The Iranian awakening is a rapidly reproducing discipleship movement that owns no property or buildings, has no central leadership, and is predominantly led by women.  He goes on:

Efforts by the ayatollahs to destroy Christianity have backfired but have served to refine and purify the church. “What persecution did was destroy the churches that were only about converts,” the Iranian church leader noted. “Converts run away from persecution, but disciples are willing to die for the Lord in persecution.”  Often a disciple-making movement begins the first moment someone comes into contact with an unbeliever. “Everything is founded on prayer. We find people of peace through prayer. We even find locations through prayer,” the Iranian church leader noted. “Jesus has gone faster than us. He has come in their dreams or he’s come miraculously in their lives. When we hear this, we know that Jesus has gone ahead of us.”

I can relate to this.  Read it.  Watch that video, or read George Thomas’s account.

Sosthenes Hoadelphos

January 2020 

James Taylor Sr -The Irrepressible Spirit of Evangelisation

James Taylor

I wish to make clear the peculiar import of this chapter (Acts 8); my thought being to show how irrepressible the spirit of evangelisation is during this dispensation.  I desire to emphasise that, so that our hearts may be encouraged as those interested in the gospel.  It is a great thing to see that the spirit of evangelisation continues.  If there is anything the wicked one is set against, it is the gospel; it is an immense encouragement to see that at what we call the darkest period of the church’s history; … the evangelical spirit there was irrepressible.  It should be an immense cheer to us to see it.

I do not think it is the Lord’s mind that there should be apathy in regard to the gospel; I believe on the contrary that His thought would be to promote interest in, and sympathy with, it; and so I think this chapter is set here to show how irrepressible it is; and even in the period, darkest from divisions within the church, you will find that when the Lord through the apostle makes provision for evangelical work, he enjoins Timothy, while not specifically naming him as an evangelist, to do the work of one.

(James Taylor, NS vol. 4, p329)  (Editor’s Note:  I commend reading this whole address!)

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O Lord Thy Face was Set – Thou Lord to Death’s Domain

Full Poem by L G Milner

 

I do not know how I came across it, but I found this full poem amongst my papers.  Seven verses of this poem have been edited int two hymns in the Little Flock Hymn Book (1961 and 1973 editions)

 

Hymn 152 –  O Lord Thy face was set, Set steadfastly

Hymn 268  – Thou Lord to death’s domain, Didst go alone

    1. Centre of heaven’s delight,
      Angelic praise
      Heralds Thine advent night
      On Thee they gaze.
      Angels their God can see
      Robed in humanity,
      Veiling divinity,
      Yet all alone.
    2. Son of the carpenter,
      Man callèd Thee.
      God ever blest, divine.
      Eternally!
      Yes! here Thy glory shone,
      Thou meek and lowly One
      Fulness of God made known
      Only in Thee.
    3. Treading Thy path alone,
      Shame and despite
      From those who were Thine own,
      Shunning Thy light.
      Friend to the desolate,
      Sad and disconsolate,
      Pouring out love on hate,
      Thou wast alone.
    4. Yet joy did fill Thy heart
      Doing God’s will.
      Naught swerved Thee from Thy part
      All to fulfil.
      Perfect dependent Man,
      Thou didst completely span
      All God’s redemption plan,
    5. Yet wast alone.Thy face, O Lord, was set,
      Set steadfastly,
      Till God’s full claims should yet
      Accomplished be.
      Where men from God withheld,
      Thine offering excelled,
      What odours choice He smelled,
      So rich in Thee
    6. In dark Gethsemene,
      There all alone,
      None knew Thine agony,
      Not e’en Thine own.
      “Sleep on, disciples, sleep,
      Rest while your Lord doth weep,”
      None could His vigil keep;
      He was alone.
    7. Yet onward still to go,
      On to the Cross,
      Drink deep that cup of woe,
      Of grief and loss.
      All from Thee then did flee
      When on the accursèd tree
      God hid His face from Thee;
      Truly alone.
    8. Blessed and glorious Man!
      Thy lowly stoop
      Compassed God’s wondrous plan –
      Redemption’s scope.
      All that God’s holy mind
      Had sought in man to find
      All that his love designed
      Secured by Thee!
    9. Into death’s dark domain,
      Entered alone.
      Death had on Thee no claim,
      Thou sinless One.
      He who had death’s dread power
      Met thee in that dark hour,
      Vanquished by thee his power,
      By Thee alone.
    10. But Thou hast burst the grave,
      Risen art Thou!
      Death could not Thee enslave,
      Death had to bow.
      Victorious hast Thou come
      Out of the darksome tomb,
      Broken the bands of gloom;
      Beyond death now.
    11. What mighty triumphs, Lord,
      Thou didst achieve!
      What fruitfulness doth God
      From Thee receive!
      Out of Thy death has sprung
      A wondrous, living throng,
      All, all to Thee belong
      And in Thee live.
    12. Firstborn of all Thou art.
      Lowly we bow.
      Chief in Thy Father’s heart,
      Chief to us now.
      Thou art indeed supreme,
      Out great eternal theme,
      Worthy of all esteem,
      Worthy art Thou!
    13. Formed for Thy bride to be;
      Fashioned in death,
      Companion meet for Thee,
      Breathing Thy breath.
      Love gains its whole desire,
      Thy beauty her attire
      In her, all will admire
      Thy glories’ wealth.
    14. In Thy blest image, Lord,
      Living in Thee,
      Sons of the living God,
      Sons like to Thee.
      Thou in Thy wondrous grace
      Giv’st them Thy brethren’s place
      Before Thy Father’s face,
      Holy and free.
    15. Glory to God on high,
      Eternally.
      His Name to magnify
      All praises be.
      God will himself display
      Glory’s effulgent ray
      Within the church for aye,
      0 Lord by Thee.
    16. Hark! Through high heaven’s expanse
      Songs vibrant rise,
      Filling that sphere immense,
      Rending the skies.
      No angel’s song is this,
      But sons in heav’nly bliss
      Knowing the Father’s kiss,
      Hymn their replies.
    17. Softly a hush there falls –
      Deep holy awe.
      His contemplation calls
      All to adore.
      See, see his beauties shine!
      So human, so divine
      Then song before the shrine
      Rises once more
    18. Longing Thy all to hear,
      “Lord Jesus come!”
      Thy whisper in our ear,
      “Quickly I come!”
      Dawn of the morn is nigh,
      Spirit and bride reply
      That last ecstatic cry
      “Lord Jesus come.
    19. Perfect the end attained
      God glorified!
      Perfect the vessel gained
      Love satisfied!
      God in His love can rest
      With man supremely blest.
      Near, O how near His breast,
      Loved there in Thee.

    Lesley G Milner, (1884-1958)  lived in Tunbridge Wells, Kent.  They had a ladies clothes shop in Gillingham (where I go for meetings) which was very popular amongst brethren.  Sadly, Gillinhgam boasts little more than charity shops!   According to My Brethren Eric Burr had said, “I do remember his taking a fellowship meeting in Glasgow in the late thirties”.

     

J N Darby – May I be a Shepherd

One thing I would pray for, because I love the Lord’s sheep, is that there might be shepherds. 

One thing I would pray for, because I love the Lord’s sheep, is that there might be shepherds.  I know nothing, next to personal communion with the Lord, so blessed as the shepherds feeding the Lord’s sheep, the Lord’s flock; but it is the Lord’s flock…that changes the whole aspect of things.  When it is felt to be the Lord’s flock a man has to look over, what thoughts of responsibility, what care, what zeal, what watchfulness!  I do not see anything so lovely.  “Lovest thou me?  Feed my sheep—feed my lambs.”  I know nothing like it upon earth—the care of a true-hearted shepherd, one who can bear the whole burden of grief and care of any soul and deal with God about it.  I believe it is the happiest, most blessed relationship that can subsist in this world.

 

(J N Darby)

 Golden Nugget Number 254

 

 

 

 

The rationale for this collection stems from the volume of second-hand ministry that has passed through the Editor’s hands over the years.  Often, previous owners have highlighted sections they had particularly enjoyed.  Add to this the need at times in these busy days to have the means to snatch some ray of Christ, His glory and the world that He fills, to sustain the soul during periods when more prolonged reading may be impossible .The Editor readily agrees that taking ministry out of its context can be dangerous.  The selection has therefore been made to try and avoid this pitfall.  The extracts selected are hopefully nuggets of gold that have an instant resonance in the affections of those who “love our Lord Jesus Christ in incorruption” Eph 6:24

 

 

 

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One Pearl of great Price

Golden Nugget Number 252

 

…”the kingdom of heaven is like unto a merchant man, seeking goodly pearls; who, when he had found one pearl of great price, went and sold all that he had, and bought it.” (Matt 13:46).  It is a merchant, a man who knows his business.  He is seeking goodly pearls, something that is not spurious.  It says,”when he had found one pearl,” not a string of pearls, one pearl of great price.  It speaks of the peculiar beauty that attaches to the assembly as having but one object for her affections.  It is the beauty of undivided affection for Christ.  That was of great value in the Lord’s sight…and He was prepared to surrender all that was His legitimately with a view to securing this one object of His affections.  Think of what joy it was to the Lord to live here as a Man ministering to the heart of God every day of His life, and conscious of His pleasure!  Yet He would surrender that—He would go down into death for the sake of the pearl.

(A J Gardiner,  Clacton,  1938)

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Frederick Raven – Is there a Collective Christian Position? –

Some say there is now no collective Christian position and that it is impossible for Christians rightly to break bread together in view of the public breakdown of the church.  However I think we can free from sectarian organisation.

 

I have heard it said that there is now no collective Christian position. I understand what they mean.  Some have though that it meant it was now impossible for Christians rightly to break bread together in view of the public breakdown of the church.  However I think we can free from sectarian organisation.

I believe that the Lord is reminding His own as to the subject of gathering.    A brother recently wrote to me, referring back to when he was ill in 1970 (a significant year for some readers).  He wrote:

“I was crying out to the Lord in pain, when the Lord came back to me with the rebuke, ‘You don’t really love me! all you love is ‘the assembly’, I am secondary to all you do!’ 

By putting ‘the assembly’ in quotes, I am sure he was referring to a religious body, not the body of Christ.  That challenged me: does my little round of meetings and the fellowship I enjoy mean more to me than the Lord Himself. Frederick Raven said he did not understand a ‘collective position’. Many resisted him then – maybe we would have been preserved from a lot of sorrow had we gotten the gain of his ministry since.  Here are a few extracts (slightly edited for sense) from a reading on the parables of the mustard tree and the leaven in Matthew 13:31-46 (1901) – See Ministry of F E Raven Vol 15 p 359).

 

F E Raven

Frederick Raven

The mustard tree conveys the idea of imperialism, the hierarchical system of things, a great conspicuous figure, which affords shelter; the leaven hid in the three measures of meal represents a great inflated mass leavened by corrupted doctrine.  When Christianity assumed a form and character which God never intended, it was morally a ruin.  The ruin has come in upon Christianity as a whole. I think everyone who takes a place outside the great world order is a witness to the ruin.  We must go on without any pretension, without any idea of what is called corporate witness, an ecclesiastical company in any sense.  We are in danger of becoming a tree: well let us say, a small tree.

 In reply to the remark ‘Our collective Christian position is a witness to the ruin’.  Raven answered. I do not understand a collective position.  I think our position is essentially individual. I cannot see any warrant for anything save what is individual in the present state of things.  Find ‘those that call upon the Lord out of a pure heart’ (2 Tim 2:22), I do not mind who: I am not recognising a company.  I cannot see any warrant for anything save what is individual in the present state of things.  Scripture says, ‘Two are better than one’ (Eccl 4:9).  If you get two people walking in righteousness they will naturally be drawn together. I should not recognise a company. If I were asked to what company I belong, I should say, “To none”.

 Abiding in Christ meets every difficulty.  The sad thing to me is, that I see a great number today who do not seem to be abiding in Christ. I do not say that they are not Christians, but the only antidote to lawlessness is abiding in Christ.

We break bread in view of all Christians; we cannot compass all in fact, but in our mind we take in all saints.  The moment we go out in thought to the whole church all is plain sailing.  A Christian who isolates himself is lawless.

When asked, ’Is there any company that can act with authority?”.  FER answered ‘No’. Then asked ‘How then can we deal with evil?’, ‘You do not go on with evil. We seek to act according to the truth.  As to putting away, I am a bit afraid of the collective idea. The only thing that can act with the authority of Christ is the church. However, two or three acting in Christ’s name is not really the church, only they are guided by the principle of the church.  ‘We being many are one body’ (Rom 12:5). I do not see any warrant for taking the place of a company; we stand apart from the organisation of Christendom.

My Conclusion

Perhaps we all need to be with the Lord and do a bit of rethinking.  I fear lest in leaving or rejecting the tenets of one company, we join or espouse the ideas of another.  Occupation with Christ is the only antidote.

 

Sosthenes

September 2019

 

 

Full Text of Reading

Following some criticism for ‘selectively quoting’ from FER, I am reproducing the whole reading.
See Ministry of F E Raven Vol 15 p 359).
Obtainable from Kingston Bible Trust
I do not believe that my extracts detract in any way from the whole reading

READING ON MATTHEW

Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is like to a grain of mustard seed, which a man took, and sowed in his field: which indeed is the least of all seeds: but when it is grown, it is the greatest among herbs, and becometh a tree, so that the birds of the air come and lodge in the branches thereof.

Another parable spake he unto them; The kingdom of heaven is like unto leaven, which a woman took, and hid in three measures of meal, till the whole was leavened.

All these things spake Jesus unto the multitude in parables; and without a parable spake he not unto them: That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying, I will open my mouth in parables; I will utter things which have been kept secret from the foundation of the world.

Then Jesus sent the multitude away, and went into the house: and his disciples came unto him, saying, Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field. He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man; The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one; The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels. As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; and shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.

Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto treasure hid in a field; the which when a man hath found, he hideth, and for joy thereof goeth and selleth all that he hath, and buyeth that field. Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a merchant man, seeking goodly pearls: who, when he had found one pearl of great price, went and sold all that he had, and bought it.

Matthew 13:31 – 46 (KJV) – Darby version on hyperlink

 

The Mustard Tree

Ques. In reference to the tree — is it the thought that the outward proportion is according to the inward corruption?

F.E.R. Yes; but I think you must distinguish between them. The leaven and the mustard tree are two different similitudes. One represents one thing, and the other represents another. The tree conveys the idea of imperialism, a great conspicuous figure, which affords shelter. On the other hand, the leaven hid in the three measures of meal represents a great inflated mass leavened by corrupted doctrine — they are two distinct figures.

Rem. The mustard tree represents the hierarchical system of things.

F.E.R. Yes, it becomes conspicuous in the world, ruling over the kings of the earth. The harlot will ride the beast. That is imperialism. The three measures of meal leavened represent a great inflated mass.

Rem. Permeating a given sphere.

F.E.R. Exactly.

Ques. Do you get the end of those two views in Revelation 17 and 18?

F.E.R. I should think what you get in Revelation is more the mustard tree. It is the great city Babylon that rules over the kings of the earth.

Ques. Does the apostle speak of leaven in 2 Timothy 3 where he gives a moral description of the last days? Does that give the idea of leaven?

 

The Adaptation of Christianity to Man

F.E.R. Not quite to my mind. I think leaven is very much more what is human. It is the adaptation of Christianity to man. Everything is humanised.

Rem. That is the point — Christianity adapted to human ideas.

Ques. Is it what is spoken of in Colossians 2?

F.E.R. Yes, that is it. “After the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world”.

Rem. “They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world hears them”.

F.E.R. What is our place in regard of all these things? We have a perception of them, and are professedly apart from them, but I do not know whether we are apart from them morally, and I fear in many minds there is a kind of hankering after them. What was said at the beginning was that if you stand outside these things, as recognising the character of them, you are a witness to the ruin. It is a poor kind of thing to be a witness to the ruin, but that is pretty much where we are. I do not know how far it is understood.

Rem. That is what was before me, that we might see how far we are sensible of the ruin and outside of it. The mustard tree is the ruin.

Ques. This is a picture of the ruin of what?

Rem. It is the ruin of the kingdom of heaven that is spoken of here. The mustard tree is the ruin.

 

The Church and the Kingdom of Heaven

Ques. Do you distinguish between the church and the kingdom of heaven?

Rem. I do; but in bringing in the kingdom the church comes into view. The mustard tree is a great hierarchical system which Christ never intended the church to be.

Rem. It is the product of a false kingdom instead of the true. Babylon is a false system.

Rem. You get the beginning of it in 1 Corinthians. “Ye have reigned as kings without us”.

F.E.R. It is worth while to know what is in our minds when we speak about the ruin. When christianity assumed a form and character which God never intended, it was morally a ruin. God never intended that there should be clergy and sacramentalism and all that sort of thing; but that is the form that christianity has taken to a very large extent.

Ques. When we speak of the ruin, do we not think rather more of it in connection with a house than a tree? You would say that the house has broken down.

F.E.R. I do not know that I should say that. I think Christianity has.

Rem. Christianity was really intended to produce a moral witness for Christ here, and in that sense it has failed.

Ques. Does the failure embrace both the kingdom and the church phase of things?

F.E.R. I think the ruin has come in upon Christianity as a whole. I think every one who takes a place outside the great world order is a witness to the ruin.

Ques. Are you not a witness to what cannot be touched by ruin? Was not Paul?

F.E.R. You are not qualified to be a witness to the ruin if you are not up to the mark.

Rem. Our collective position is a witness to the ruin.

 

I do not understand a Collective Position.

F.E.R. I do not understand a collective position.

Ques. “With those that call upon the Lord out of a pure heart”, does not that imply a company?

F.E.R. I do not mind who it is: it is anybody who calls on the Lord out of a pure heart.

Ques. What was in your mind when you said that you do not understand a collective position?

F.E.R. I think our position is essentially individual. I cannot see any warrant for anything save what is individual in the present state of things.

Rem. But Scripture says, “Two are better than one”.

F.E.R. I agree to that. I cannot see how we can be a witness to the ruin if we are lawless. A lawless man cannot be a witness to the ruin, he is in the ruin. If you get two people walking in righteousness they will naturally be drawn together.

 

‘Our Fellowship’

Rem. A good deal has been said about our fellowship.

Rem. I think that means christian fellowship.

Ques. I often hear the expression, ‘So-and-so is not in our fellowship’. If we use such terms, what is meant?

F.E.R. I should suppose that what is meant is that So-and-so is not walking in the truth. If a man is going on in Bethesda, I should not say that that man is really in the fellowship of the truth.

Rem. I have heard you say that the only warrant for our going on together in fellowship is in that passage in 2 Timothy: “follow righteousness, faith, charity, peace, with them that call on the Lord out of a pure heart”.

F.E.R. Quite so. It is the only warrant I know for it.

Rem. Then we must go on without any pretension, or without any idea of what is called corporate witness.

Rem. What you mean is that we cannot claim to be an ecclesiastical company in any sense.

Rem. We are in danger of becoming a tree.

F.E.R. Well, a small tree.

Rem. I suppose we cannot help walking together if we are each walking in the truth.

F.E.R. I do not mind at all if the truth is the bond. There are, I fear, a great many in fellowship with us who look upon brethren as an association, or something of the kind, on scriptural lines, and they are borne along with it.

Rem. I suppose it is that you really stand aside and through grace wait for Christ, and if there are any others waiting they are glad to break bread with you; not forming anything.

F.E.R. Quite so.

Romanism and Protestantism

Rem. I do not see in the seven churches that anything is under the eye of Christ but Romanism and Protestantism — Thyatira and Sardis; all the sects, and so on, are not anything under the eye of Christ, they are all part of Protestantism. It is Romanism on the one hand and Protestantism on the other.

Ques. What about Laodicea?

Rem. That is part of Protestantism.

Ques. What of Philadelphia?

Rem. That is also part of Protestantism.

Rem. Do you think these parables have any connection with the previous part of the gospel — the tree and the fruit — and the tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is cut down? I thought of Christ as the green tree. He was removed. The trees of the earth were cut down because of the evil in them.

F.E.R. I think the fig tree has been cut down for good; but the fig tree represents man under culture, and it is cursed.

Rem. The tree that is spoken of here is not in connection with fruit good or bad. It is connected with shade and overshadowing.

Ques. When you speak of ‘individual’, is there not such a thing as the unity of the Spirit?

F.E.R. Yes; but if you are a witness to the ruin, you do everything right, else you are no witness. If you are lawless you are involved in the ruin. The mystery of lawlessness already works, and it is only as we are apart from it that we are a witness to the ruin.

Ques. Is there any company that can act with authority?

F.E.R. No.

How can we deal with Evil?

Ques. How then can we deal with evil?

F.E.R. You do not go on with it. There is no need to go on with evil.

Ques. Are we to look for “faithful men” today?

F.E.R. Yes, I think so. I think we seek to act according to the truth.

Rem. It has often been said that it is only the assembly that can put away.

F.E.R. I am a bit afraid of the collective idea. The meaning of putting away is to get apart from evil. I think the only thing that can act with the authority of Christ is the church. I do not think two or three acting in Christ’s name is really the church, only they are guided by the principle of the church.

Ques. If you went into a place you would try to find those who are calling on the Lord out of a pure heart?

“I should not recognise a company. If I were asked to what company I belong, I should say,’ To none’.”

F.E.R. Yes, certainly; but I should not recognise a company. If I were asked to what company I belong, I should say, To none.

Ques. Would you address a letter of commendation to the saints?

F.E.R. Yes; but it is not because I recognise a company, but because I know there are saints there who call upon the Lord with a pure heart; but those few saints are not the church.

Ques. What is it if it is not a company?

F.E.R. A sort of two or three held together by the truth. In acting we can only act in the light of the church.

Ques. Would the expression “Tell it to the assembly” hold good now?

F.E.R. The principle of it would, but I think we are in danger of getting into an organisation. We have lists of meetings or address books.

Ques. When you speak of a company you are using the word in a sense of an ecclesiastical company?

F.E.R. Yes. People do their best to force us into some ecclesiastical position. Brethren are not an addition to the system around us; it is the very thing we have to contend against. I do not see any warrant for standing apart from what is in christendom, but in seeing that it is not according to God, and this is individual.

Ques. How would leaven affect us now?

F.E.R. You will find in christendom that the precepts of christianity are very largely adapted to man as man. Men can take up an official position as men. For a clergyman it is not necessary that a man should be converted. I have no doubt that a great part of the world is largely affected by the precepts which you get in the epistles, but they are applied to man as man.

Ques. We have heard recently that many have taken the path without faith in it; is that what is in your mind to guard against?

F.E.R. Yes; if people take account of brethren as a company, and attach themselves to them as such, there is no faith for the path, and they are hanging on some one else. I do not know what the end of it will be. We are, I fear, dragging on a lot of unwilling people.

Ques. What about young people who desire to take their place to remember the Lord? May they not be instructed?

F.E.R. Yes; but they not only want instruction but faith for the path.

Rem. Abiding in Christ meets every difficulty.

F.E.R. The sad thing to me is, that I see a great number today who do not seem to be abiding in Christ. I do not say that they are not christians, but they are in measure lawless. The only antidote to lawlessness is abiding in Christ.

Ques. What is our warrant for breaking bread at all if you get rid of the company idea?

“We want to walk in the light of the church”

F.E.R. If you do not act in the light of the Lord, you are lawless. We want to walk in the light of the church. The moment we go out in thought to the whole church all is plain sailing. If a christian isolates himself he is lawless; but we want to keep ourselves and our own minds clear of the company idea.

Rem. There is a sense in which you can look at the company by taking in all saints.

F.E.R. Yes, you are on plain ground then.

Rem. You would have a great objection to a christian isolating himself.

F.E.R. Yes, I think he is lawless.

Ques. Does not breaking bread give the thought of a company?

F.E.R. I break bread in thinking of the entire company.

Rem. The one loaf takes in the whole of the saints.

F.E.R. Yes. In mind you take in all saints, and you break bread in view of all christians; we cannot compass all in fact, but in our mind we take in all saints.

Rem. You take in in your mind what is in God’s mind.

F.E.R. Yes, exactly. “We being many are one body”. I do not see any warrant for taking the place of a company; we stand apart from the organisation of christendom.

Rem. The use of the word ‘company’ involves in many minds the idea of some kind of corporation.

Rem. The brethren.

F.E.R. Yes. The great point is that we must each individually be in faith. I take myself as an example; if any one challenged me as to what I belong to in christendom I should say, ‘To nothing’. It would not be a quibble in my mind.

Rem. 2 Timothy is a great book for us now. It shews a clear path. Follow first righteousness, then faith, then love.

F.E.R. Yes; but it is with those who call, &c.

Calling on the Lord out of a pure Heart is Individual

Rem. It would be unbecoming for any company of christians to claim that they were calling on the Lord out of a pure heart.

F.E.R. Yes, the individual does that.

Ques. When you speak of a company, would not that imply every one forming that company?

Rem. It is very difficult to convey an idea of what it is to others. It is inexplicable to people outside.

F.E.R. I am not considering what they think, but what is in my own mind. My point is as to where we are in regard of these things in our own minds. I believe the thought in a great many minds is that brethren are a company in christendom gathered together on scriptural ideas.

Rem. You would refuse their putting you in a false position.

F.E.R. I am anxious to be out of a false position in my own mind. I have no doubt the position is an exceedingly difficult one.

Ques. When we use the plural number, ‘we’ and ‘us’, ought we not to take in in our minds the whole church?

F.E.R. Yes, I think so. The point with regard to it all is the idea that people have in their minds of the position taken up, and of our relation to all that is going on.

Ques. Did not all this come out some years ago in Fragmentary Remarks?

F.E.R. I am quite sure all this was in Mr. Darby’s mind. No one was more averse to anything like organisation than he was. The very fact that any one of us is seeking to pursue the truth of necessity brings us together for the moment; but there can be no collective witness to the ruin; it is individual.

Rem. Mr. Darby maintained that we were only two or three, and if we were a witness to anything we were a witness to the ruin.

Rem. You are a witness to the ruin by abiding in Christ rather than by taking pains to let people know whom you are associated with.

F.E.R. I think so. I want to see an end of lawlessness amongst those with whom we are associated. If we were abiding in Christ we should stand clear of a great many things we are now associated with. I see many people in fellowship who assent to the truth, but who are not governed by the truth. Do you think if people were abiding in Christ, they would be found in picture galleries? Is that suitable to abiding in Christ? If you are not abiding in Christ, you are sure to be lawless.

Ques. How is this difficulty to be met with regard to those who seek for help?

 

Faith for the Path

F.E.R. The difficulty is, there are people who have not faith for the path.

Ques. What do you mean by faith for the path?

F.E.R. Take Moses. Moses had every opportunity in the world, but he had faith for a path. If people have faith for the path they will be prepared for self-abnegation. If they want to get the best of both worlds, to get the things of this world as well as the things of Christ, they will not be much good. It is not that we make a company, but our bond is the truth. What we want to know more of is living down here in relation to the One in heaven. I defy anybody to find any antidote at all to lawlessness excepting abiding in Christ. It certainly means the entire setting aside of our own will.

Ques. Do I get a right impression that the only thing for us is for the truth of God to be made good in our souls individually?

F.E.R. Yes.

Ques. What would you say abiding in Christ is?

F.E.R. It is like the earth abiding in the sun. It is coming under the influence of Christ; you are held by attraction to Christ.

Rem. If we are walking in the Spirit, we shall be abiding in Christ.

F.E.R. I think the whole universe will abide in Christ, and that is how God intends to set lawlessness aside. In the meantime we abide in Christ and He in us. I do not think Christ will abide in you if you do not abide in Him. If Christ is your Head Christ is your intelligence, and you view everything according to Him. Christ in the gospels never viewed anything according to man. Man’s thoughts were continually presented to Him, but He never viewed anything according to man. We have the mind of Christ, and we view everything in relation to Christ and not to ourselves.

Rem. I remember a brother saying that practical christianity may be summed up in two expressions: the sum of the Spirit’s teaching is abide in Christ, and the sum of Christ’s teaching is “Love one another”.

Rem. I suppose if two persons were abiding in Christ they would be loving one another, and there would be unity?

F.E.R. I think so. The true principle is — “If we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another”. We cannot get out of that — “We have fellowship one with another”.

J N Darby – A Prayer to the Saviour

 

Good and precious Saviour, we do indeed rejoice that Thou, who hast suffered so much for us, hast now fulfilled all things, and art now at rest with Thy Father, whatever may be Thine active love for us.  Oh that we knew and loved Thee better!  But still we can say in fullness of heart, Come quickly, Lord!  Leave once more the throne of Thy rest and of Thy personal glory, to come to take us to Thyself, that all may be fulfilled for us also, and that we may be with Thee and in the light of Thy Father’s countenance and in His house.  Thy grace is infinite, but Thy presence and the joy of the Father shall be the rest of our hearts, and our eternal joy.

 

(J N Darby,  Synopsis on John 14)

Golden Nugget Number 245

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Theodosia Powerscourt – Put by our Play-things, because the World is in Flames

What an honour to be counted worthy to stand in the crisis! – the honour to which all Scripture from the beginning has been looking; the winding-up of time.   Let us bear in our bodies the last blows of the flesh; let us manifest in our mortal bodies that Jesus is alive; let us be willing to endure all things for the elect’s sake; let us put by our play-things, because the world is in flames.   Why creep about in this deadening atmosphere of falsehood, instead of ever abiding in the region of truth and reality?  Why are not our visits to earth only as messengers of mercy to dress the wounds of the church – to glorify Him by finishing the work He has given us to do?   Sent of Jesus, even as He was sent of the Father.    And, while seeking to be worthy of the name put upon her, may she remember that it is not of herself the bride is to speak, but her object, her subject, her delight, her hope, her only resting-place is her Beloved – the Bridegoom of her heart

 

Letters and Papers of Viscountess  Theodosia Powerscourt,  pp.245-246)

 


The rationale for this collection stems from the volume of second-hand ministry that has passed through the Editor’s hands over the years.  Often, previous owners have highlighted sections they had particularly enjoyed.

Add to this the need at times in these busy days to have the means to snatch some ray of Christ, His glory and the world that He fills, to sustain the soul during periods when more prolonged reading may be impossible.

The Editor readily agrees that taking ministry out of its context can be dangerous.  The selection has therefore been made to try and avoid this pitfall.  The extracts selected are hopefully nuggets of gold that have an instant resonance in the affections of those who “love our Lord Jesus Christ in incorruption” Eph 6:24

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Ernest Palmer – Is your Life a Vapour?

James says, “for what is your life?…It is even a vapour, appearing for a little while, and then disappearing”. 

James says, “for what is your life?…It is even a vapour, appearing for a little while, and then disappearing”.  How reducing that is, is it not?  How it puts things in perspective.  How it makes us see that anyone altogether absorbed with the things that are here is spending time and energy, maybe involving much anxiety, in regard to what in itself has no real substance; a vapour has no substance, or very little, and is passing away, disappearing.  I think this is one of the most telling passages in the Scriptures to show what the existence here of man, apart from God, really is, “appearing for a little while and then disappearing”.  But every person who has confidence in our Lord Jesus Christ, and an abiding hope in what He has done, who has faith in His blood, that precious blood, is possessed of a life that will never pass away.

Ernest Palmer, Croydon Golden Nugget 229

 

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F E Raven – A High Priest who Loves us

We are represented at the right hand of God by the Priest, and the Priest loves us.  We could hardly say that Aaron loved the people.  He interceded for them, and bore the names of the tribes on his shoulders and on his breast.  But our High Priest loves us, and supports us as long as we are on earth, and nothing can separate us from His love. It is wonderful to think that He knows us individually.  Aaron had the names of the tribes on his shoulders, but the Lord says He knows His own sheep by name; John 10: 3.  He spoke to Mary by name; He knew her individually; she was a sheep.  And so in regard to us, He knows us and intercedes for us.

 

F E Raven

 

Golden Nugget Number 237

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